Hi,
I use linux mint xfce for many years now, and I tried Peppermint yesterday. I am really really impressed.
You managed to use less ram and even less cpu than Linux mint xfce.
Linux mint is an incredible distro but you managed to add few options really helpful as the size of the pointer, Debian software and many other little things…
So I am going to install Peppermint 10.
Congratulations, I really hope you can keep going and I can’t wait to see Peppermint 11.
About Snap, I understand the concern of Linux Mint but you are right to leave the choice. But I think it will be good to explain the situation to the users before they use snap like a pop pup to explain before using. Like that, they can choose. and I really like you can add app from Debian as well. Another choice and liberty.
A lot of liberty in fact…
I was wondering if you install a programme like chromium by snap, does it use more space on the disk? It looks like the installation is bigger by snap than by apt or debian…
Thanks for your support. Glad to hear you’re enjoying Peppermint.
My guess is that a snap and or flatpack will include a few libraries that a traditional deb package would expect is already installed on the system but that’s more of a question for debate in our forums :)
Hi Joseph I really enjoyed previous versions of Peppermint OS. I really love to run lighter operating systems for my main desktop that features an i7 processor. I really like the fact that Peppermint OS gives the user a flashy but still down to earth operating system. I always enjoy using less resources and saving them for when they are truly needed which Peppermint allows. I forgot though how the EOL (end of life) works. Do you follow Ubuntu LTS dates 5 years or Lubuntu 3 Years?
All upstream updates from the Ubuntu project will continue so from a security perspective you can keep using Peppermint 10 until 18.04 reaches end of life. However, the Peppermint software packages may not receive updates as we tend to only support the latest version after it becomes available.
A software that allows Appimage to be integrated into the system [integration in the menu – launchers – dock and define predefined applications software] is https://github.com/TheAssassin/AppImageLauncher
Could be an interesting alternative for Peppermint OS 11
Greetings!
I started using GNU/Linux on December 2019 and my first distro was Pop!_OS, I moved to another linux disrto after that one just to experiment and then i heard of peppermint 10 and decided to try it….it was bloody amazing and I literally had zero bugs! To get more experience I left pepper mint to try Fedora 32…big mistake. Fedora was really unstable on my pc and it didn’t work out…I then tried other distributions and i can to a conclusion…It was that peppermint OS was the distribution that i enjoyed most…it was the most stable and most welcoming.
I made a huge mistake leaving peppermint and i have learnt my lesson…this is by far the best distro i’ve tried. Peppermint 10 was great and I cant wait to try peppermint 11 when it comes out.
I am coming back and wishing my best wishes to the team.
If you just could replace the Whisker Menu with the Mate Menu (as it is in Ubuntu Mate Edition). This would be a huge improvement. The Whisker Menu is too flat and primitive, not a bit better than the Windows XP Start Menu.
Possibly a Live USB Maker similar to the MX Live USB Maker for both dd and writable USBs with persistence, possibly remaster. This is asking a bit much though, hence possibly.
Clipgrab? Conky-all by default to show how fast Pmint is.
My wish list for 11 is short – 1 item. Several releases back – maybe Peppermint 5 – a user had the ability to show or hide the contents of the desktop leaving only desktop wallpaper and the panel. I think it is a standard feature in lubuntu. The feature was dropped but PCNetSpec created a workaround that worked up until 9. If this feature could be reintroduced it would be great.
Thanks for the reply – hiding application icons can be easily done, but not the icons for files in the Desktop folder.I’m pretty sure that what I want to see isn’t available at present. Let me try to be clearer. If I place a number of files in the Desktop folder, an icon for each file will show on the desktop. I would like to be able to toggle their view on or off so that when I’m not working, my screen can show only whatever background I have chosen. As I mentioned in my original post, this could be done “out of the box” up through Peppermint 6 I think. I asked about the feature when it went away and PCNetSpec crafted a script that worked. But with the release of 9, the script no longer worked. So, if there is a way to make it work again, I would sure like to see it return.
I like using PeppermintOS alot, however I tend to float between openSUSE and Ubuntu(s) and all the various different types of desktops. What puts me off XFCE in general is how difficult it is to grab window corners to resize them. I know you can use special key commands, but I’m also a Windows user of many decades and do everything with a mouse ;-) So easyer grabbing windows corners like you can do on Plasma and GNOME Shell would get my vote :-)
As an aside, I know that PeppermintOS is based on XFCE and LXDE. Has the Peppermint Team ever considered swapping to Lxqt? I have made my own desktop based on Kwin and Lxqt and that worked very well.
I’m realy looking forward to using PeppermintOS 11. Thanks for all your hard work in developing such a great distro.
Hello, everyone .
I use Peppermint OS from the 5th. version and this OS attracted me so much, ease of use, memorable Desktop presentation with and very good tools. Many thanks to everyone in this project.
And since we all live in the time of the Internet, I would like to offer something for Peppermint OS 11. program built into Peppermint OS 11 to LOCK YOUR APPS
Thanks.
mhh, its already that good!! ;-)but what i do miss is a function that could handle automatic installation of software/apps after doing a clean install, say when we go from peppermint 10 to 11.
i have understand that upgrading a existing version from say 10 to 11 is not so easy.
but a tool that would handle automatic installation of software/apps after a fresh install would be working so much faster.
As a new user what I really would enjoy in Peppermint 11 during the installation process, is the choice to replace the existing Peppermint, next to windows, for the latest version. So far you only can install it next to Windows, to format the whole disk or ‘another possibikity’ which I find to complicate to implement. I came across this simple choice possibility in an other Linux OS. It certainly would be of a great help for all new users of great Peppermint OS.
I switched completely to Linux about 6 years ago, I think. I never looked backed – came from Windows – despite the fact that I have a lot of paid software that ran on my Windows system. As a lot of other people in the world today, I use a computer almost all the time each day during working hours. So when I am at home, I personally do not have the need to fire up a computer and have it running all the time. I do use a computer at home of course, but then I need it to be quick to start up and shut down, simple, easy and quick to use, but also nice to look at and work with. The OS should keep my laptop cool and running smooth for a long time on battery without the need to plug into the wall. Peppermint 10 checks all these boxes and I really like it a lot. I usually either power it up for a small task and then shut it down, or leave it running by itself to complete some job that I set it up to. It really works great.
I want to thank you all on the Peppermint team for doing such a great job!!!
Peppermint 11 really should remain small, fast and un-bloated but also, of course, keep up with time and renew itself. I do not know, what you should choose to include in Peppermint 11. It is a hard balance, since I like it as it is, but at the same time I really look forward to some kind of renewal or “rebirth”.
I like ICE, but have had some problems with it not really working that well because eg. a pupop window steals the session so that I cannot get back to the main window (my webmail is annoying, since when I open a message it steals the session, and I cannot get back to my inbox), maybe it is possible, and I just missed a shortcut key or a setting? But it does not seem to work 100% for me when hiding the firefox controls.
Something that I really liked, starting in Ubuntu when they used the Unity desktop, was the HUD. How many times have I been looking through menus to find a command? No problem, I just typed my command and the HUD found it for me. So great! I would really like to se a HUD in Peppermint 11.
I have had a problem with switchable graphics in Peppermint 10, is it implemented to switch on/off switchable graphics for older PC’s in Peppermint 10 ? Otherwise I would like Peppermint 11 to handle graphics cards better, also regarding external monitors (and especially multiple external monitors).
This was my two cents’ worth, and I wish you all – users as well as developers – a great summer and I look forward to Peppermint 11. Take care and keep up the good work!
Go to the PeppermintOS forum and use its Search function to see if some of your question concerning ICE already has been answered (I am almost positive that it has been solved). There is a huge collection of solutions in our forum!
Love Peppermint (the herb and the OS ;-). I started by using Peppermint 8 on an Asus Eee 1015PEM 10.1-Inch Netbook (which came with Win-7 Starter), which was my first big purchase as an Amazon Prime member in Oct. 2010. I’ve replaced the screen and battery on this device. It is wire connected to my stereo, as a dedicated music player for a huge personal library of music, which I’m listening to, even as I type this reply on my (master unit) NUC-PC running LMDE4. My daily laptop is a newer Asus VivoBook running L-Mint 20-C (got nothing proprietary anymore). When I (update) installed P-10, I selected minimal install (browser & basic utilities) and nothing more, so that I can use just the music (media) player, and the FF browser on rare occasion: And I know many others select this OS for its minimalist theme. Peppermint can surely be used like one would use any full-fledged laptop (or even a desktop) OS, but I’m guessing it is used on limited use single-boards or older devices like mine, since most of us have newer equipment and thus larger OS’s. Consequently, I’d recommend (as others have) to keep it minimalist, and w/a 32-bit version. The only problems with some Linux Distros is that they try to become more like Mac or Windows (or any popular L-Distro), and slowly but surely get too large. Many thanks go out to all who are working this Distro, and to the BosTechMo crew.
Suggestion for 11: On L-Mint-C, if the Panel gets messed up, say, by a child playing with it unsupervised :-(… you can right-click the Panel, click Troubleshoot, and then click Restore All Settings To Default. In Peppermint (I’m on 10), there is no way to reset it, at least not that I can find, and I’ve G-searched for it to no avail. Right now on my Panel, everything (everything) is shifted to the left, and when trying to Ad New Items & then Separator, nothing happens. Bummer!
Fair warning to ICE users; do not select “Use Site Favicon” because if there’s not one, it locks up and you must force quit; it does this on P-10 & Mint-20. And even after you have created one, it saves the shortcut in “All Applications” because it has no designation folder option, which it needs, badly. Lastly, if you make the comments section herein, editable, then one would not have to tag on over and again.
I thought I posted this previously but didn’t seem to show up, so here it again.
Dream Peppermint OS would offer/support:
Nemo lags for me & I don’t know if it’s hardware related or due to the version used in PM 10. I don’t remember having any problems with it in earlier versions of PM. I have reached out via the forums for a solution but it was never resolved. I think it may just be the version used in PM 10. The problem persisted even after I recently went from 8 to 32GB DDR3 in my PC. Updating nemo can break things so I’ll wait to see if future PM fixes this.
Wacom Tablet Drivers and setting panel GUI for artists who use other distros where this is built-in
ICE Browsers appearing more like their live counterparts (ie. Firefox ICE does not have an address bar, doesn’t display add-ons so it is not exactly 1:1 the sameas a standard Firefox install).
Built in System Restore app that is simple to use & reliable/stable
Ability to make a rescue cd/.iso to easily restore boot like macrium reflect allows one to make a rescue cd/.iso.
GPU wizard to help better specify necessary/optimal graphics drivers to ensure or minimize v-sync related issues (i.e. Netbook / Laptops w/older Intel graphics seem to be most difficult / impossible to remove screen tearing). A GPU pop-up wizard for adding Vulkan flag to gpu’s w/o having to resort to difficult to understand kernel flags.
Finally, help in regards to updating apps to latest version if possible…There are less devs supporting PPA’s and .debs. Snaps & flatpaks sometimes have appearance problems that don’t blend w/the appearance of the distro (off colors; weird edges/bezels). A warning about installing Snaps/Flatpaks would be helpful such as if they are closed source or not so user can better understand.
I look forward to someday seeing these dream features implemented. Thank you to the great Peppermint Team.
I realize this isn’t a support question but I do want to remind anyone who may read this that if you do need support to visit our community forum at https://forum.peppermintos.com/
Ha! I suspect 20.04.1 will be out before we have it ready. This is our first release after Mark passed away earlier this year so we’re still learning our own workflow. However, I think it will be worth the wait.
I love everything about PeppermintOS 10 on my old acer laptop. Fastest and Rock Solid stability performance. I’ve tried various OS distros as an experiment, each of them has their own problems (example logout screen frozen in black, hardwares like camera got crashed), and I had to solve it out in order to get the things working. However for Peppermint, everything just works and doesnt requires any troubleshooting and it is buttery smooth. Yes, the only minor issues about it is the missing icons that I do encounter. I hope the new version 11 will have more visual improvements and polished design elements.
A couple of points following on from comments others have made:
1. I think Linux Mint’s approach to Snaps gives the user the most choice. While anything is Linux can be adjusted, it is easier for users who want Snaps to turn it on than it is for users who don’t want it to turn it off and purge them from the system. I will be eager to see how Peppermint 11 manages this dichotomy.
2. A Welcome Screen would be a great addition. I particularly like how MX Linux does this and centralises all tools to one convenient screen.
3. Similarly other inspirations from MX Linux could include a persistent USB creation tool and an ISO creation tool. There are some very good version of both that could be incorporated into the distro. It would be nice to be able to configure and re-spin Peppermint, turn it into an ISO as a back up or on a USB to have Peppermint in my pocket.
4. The Desktop Environment question is an interesting one. How do you make it a little more modern, while keeping it lightweight? Again, I’ll be interested to see what you come up with.
Hi, Peppermint runs really great on my old quad core machine but there are some issues i would like to tell you. First, resolution on lockscreen changes to 800×600 from 1080p and second is gaming on peppermint is not as great as linux mint or manjaro, there’s 30 percent decrease in fps on Peppermint. Otherwise everything is great.
I have a very low spec computer and I got tired of Windows hanging every single minute in it. So, I tried Peppermint 10 and I have never been more impressed by anything. I seamlessly used a Pentium dual core cpu with 1 Gb memory with it. I am waiting for Peppermint 11. And a big thank you to all those involved in this os. :)
Hi
I am a fan of Peppermint since PP8. Since 2008 I am using Ubuntu and derivates on my old pc(s) and I have abandoned Windows.
Now the main problem for the Peppermint development is due to Ubuntu that is transforming in the “windows for the Linux world”: it is too bloated, and resources hungry.
According to my experience PP 10 is fantastic on pc min year 2008 and min 2G ram. With those machines I can do my job, surf the internet, etc
For older pc I prefer Q4OS or Antix, both are Debian based, a bit or a lot more complicated, BUT they work in an acceptable way on pc from 2003, with min 1 G ram.
To summarize, PP10 is my preferite OS and I have installed it on a lot of pc (and also 2 Mac!) and it is by far the best syntesis between system solidity and easy of use, installation and support.
Many thx to the developpers
apparently, many older Thinkpad models don’t wake anymore from sleep mode under Peppermint 10 (I too have that issue). Would be great if this could be fixed – otherwise Peppermint is THE ideal OS particularly for such those low-spec laptops!
I hope Peppermint OS 11 would continue to support 32 bit machines.
A lot of OSes (both Windows and Linuxes) have dropped 32bit support.
The issue is not about upgrading to a 64bit machine.
I do have 64 bit machines running latest OSes.
The question is what to do with the 32bit machines if they are still working?
Should they be just throw away? It would be such a waste.
Old 32bit machines do need an updated OS.
Therefore I hope Peppermint OS will continue to support 32bit machines.
A very fine distro. Would like Peppermint 11 to add 4 keyboard shortcuts to tile the current app window to the left half of the screen, or the right, or the top half or bottom half. Linux Mint has this feature and allows he user to edit the shortcut key-combinations. I use Alt-LeftArrow, Alt-RightArrow, Alt-UpArrow, and Alt-DownArrow keys respectively. This is much faster and more reliable than dragging an app window to the screen margin. Sometimes it places the tiled app in the upper right corner instead of the right half screen. Ability to edit keyboard shortcuts would be welcomed.
Is the Peppermint team looking at an exclusive desktop environment (using LXqt or XFCE would be my guesses) or continuing to run with the best-of-the-best features one? I don’t mind either, just somewhat curious.
Hi Chris,
We’re planning to continue to use XFCE but in the classic Peppermint tradition it will also incorporate elements from other projects to add features while keeping the system lightweight.
New features for Peppermint OS 11
1. Uninstall packages by ‘Right Click’ option on main menu ( Like Linux Mint ) but ‘improve it’ … Right click the package(s) and select ‘mark for removal’ … Packages will remain ‘marked’ for ‘5’ minutes. If they are not removed within this time frame then they will revert to being ‘un-marked’ … After you have marked all packages you wish to remove then …From the MAIN MENU, select ‘Remove Marked Packages from System’ … The user will be asked to input the ROOT ( SUDO User ) password to complete the package(s) removal(s).
2. At install, Can we have a ‘change the menu’ option ? Give us the choices of the ‘Default’ Whisker Menu / the Mate Menu and the Cinnamon Menu… But keep all the ‘Panel’ and Right Click Un-Install options above.
Very much looking forward to version 11. I use peppermint on a range of very old, low resource hardware, and need a lightweight but capable browser. Arora was grewat, but I see is no longer maintained. Dillo is fast, but can’t render pages well – any chance of a capable but lightweight browser in version 11?
I’m running wattOS 10 on a 15yo Acer Aspire One Z5G (1.5GiB RAM, overclocked to 1.6GHz) and have Firefox running with 15 (PeppermintOS) tabs open: no lag, no freeze, no problem. With certain sites only one open tab will lag.
As Joseph says, the problem is with the websites.
I’ve tried Dillo and Midori, but they lack function and features (e.g. add-ons) and security, and seem to be very much out of date. I would not trust them for online transactions. I’d rather have ocassional lag, knowing that I’m secure online.
Top tip: always disconnect and run Bleachbit after an online transaction.
What would I like to see in PeppermintOS 11?
I’d like to see a minimal version, with all the fundamentals, without all of the non-essentials (a la wattOS, CrunchBang#!, or MadBox) that can be added later.
My reason: I always have to spend hours removing unwanted software (usually multimedia, graphics, ‘productivity’) after a fresh install before updating and upgrading.
I just by chance came about Peppermint OS, and fell in love in a day by its speed… There is huge difference… I was using Linux Mint… But hats off to the Peppermint Team.
I like to see Flawless connectivity with Apple Devices in next Peppermint Upgrade.
I am using ubuntu-tweak old out of support but very effective makes pulling off residual packages easy have had no problems at all so far. it would be nice if somebody were to build a version for next realease. other than that odio music streamer software does not install correct on new installs i really enjoy odio a great deal best music streaming software out there. i will miss these two programs a great deal but peppermint is in my opinion the very best open source linux operating system around thank you for your great work looking forward to next release can i get pre-release to try it out?
Pprmt 11 Based on 20.04 LTS only xfce (newest), no more screen tearing issue on intel hd graphics. Nice wallpapers in 1080p/1440p no blurry or lot photoshop, just natural.
A better image management for flatpak applications.. A better interaction with kde Connect, so you don’t have to install Dolphin to get into the “browse device” and be able to see previews of images ..
Please add the functionality to use more than 4 keyboard layouts. Now it has maximum 4 keyboard layouts. But I need to use many more than that. And there are many users out there with the same problem. Please fix this issue as soon as possible.
Please make it installable to hard-drive, without:
‘grub-efi-amd64-signed’ package failed to install, and
‘installer crashed’.
I have tried twice, once from straight direct install, once from live environment.
I appreciate that this not specific to Peppermint OS, but it’s something that is a recurring problem to which no attention is being paid.
Apart from this, Peppermint OS looks great, and is a great live distro.
I have just replaced Ubuntu 18.04 with Peppermint 10 on a brand new Dell Ubuntu laptop (eventually), to find that it now has twice the battery life, a much faster boot, much faster operational reponse, and a 3 second shutdown, a well as a much more user-friendly interface (much better than my custom attempts).
So why doesn’t Peppermint go into partnership with an OEM, to produce bespoke Peppermint computers?
Would it be possible to be able to change wallpapers?
In fact (after an updating) would it be possible to actually have a wallpaper/desktop background, rather than a grey screen?
Problem solved (I know this is more of a forum point, but I don’t do fora):
I removed ‘samba’ (which does not configure) & ‘adobe-flashplugin-installer’ (which gets stuck at 17%, forever). Both of these are old issues, that can potentially break an installation, but apparently the Canonical/Ubuntu developers cannot be bothered to fix them. So, maybe move to a pure Debian base?
Now, Nitrogen works, and I have changeable wallpapers.
Would it be possible to be able to have a nicely wallpapered desktop interface without icons?
Under standard desktop settings, choosing to have ‘no icons’ on the desktop means having no wallpaper (grey screen of depression).
I worked around this by moving the contents of ‘desktop’ to other foders, renaming the ‘desktop’ folder (to e.g. ‘Z’), and defining it in /home/.config/user-dir.dirs.
I now have a nice clean desktop, but it would be nicer if I didn’t have to hack a solution.
Personally what I’d like to see is an update to Peppermint 11 right on top of Peppermint 10. I really hate updating from on distro to another because of redoing everything, including saving files and downloads etc.
Please oh please… do not add bloatware to Peppermint OS 11 … I was Windows tech support and now my daily driver is peppermint os 10! I often use the keyboard shortcuts in Peppermint OS 10 so please keep them in 11. The only required improvement in Peppermint 11 is the touchpad sensitivity on laptops. I enjoy the speed and ease of use. Remember, less clutter is better. Thanks for your excellent work!
I don’t think that’s likely to happen.
In my experience, opting for a ‘minimal install’ makes no difference.
PeppermintOS is very much ‘JEOS’ (just enough operating system for what it needs to be).
Even if it will be necessary to perform a fresh install for PeppermintOS 11, make sure you make a backup copy of your ‘.config’ folder from PeppermintOS 10 (press ‘ctrl+h’ to show hidden files/folders) which should enable you to keep your prefered shortcuts.
And just to make sure, make a backup copy of the ‘.config’ folder in your fresh install, before you overwrite with your ‘old .config’ folder.
I really enjoyed this OS and their efficiency. Thank you all. I would like that you include adapta theme as an option pre-intalled for a modern look. Also it would be great that you include automatic icons for web apps on ice.
I’m (mostly) enjoying using Peppermint 10.
Both from the cli and the GUI – Thank You.
For Peppermint 11 , my only request is ….
For syslinux-legacy to be upgraded from 3.63 to 4.05/4.06, whichever was the default syslinux offered in ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
At least for syslinux-legacy or an installed version to be the same version used to create the iso .
How about using PCManFM as the default file manager? This is very much a matter of personal preference, from years of using an OpenBox/LXDE base, with my own keyboard shortcuts. A stronger LXDE base makes it easy to copy and paste configs from one install to the next, even between different LXDE based distros.
Another aspect of preference is that PCManFM actually tells you what it’s doing, e.g. when transfering files, and doesn’t close the dialogue until the transfer is complete; and then it shows the transfered files in their destination folder.
In comparison, Nemo displays an icon of the file immediately, before it has even started the transfer. This is misleading, and can easily lead to data loss, especially for newcomers who may not be familiar with either data transfer speeds or the *nix ‘snapshot’ method of non-fragmented data transfer, and e.g. hastily remove their USB stick before anything has actually happened.
I know this, from when I began my migration from WinXP to Ubuntu 8.04!
Meantime, I’m working on integrating PCManFM to the PeppermintOS ecosystem, although I have already borked one install. LOL ;-)
Hello to the team and the community. Very often I am adapting the distributions a little bit to make them more to the taste of beginners.
What I personally would like is to have a tool to make an installable iso of the system I modified, like the one in MX. It’s also a way to spread the good news.
I use bodhibuilder for this and it works out of the box and even reduces boot time, as reported by systemd-analyse. It fully supports Secure Boot UEFI.
I’m using P10 Respin—-it is great and I’m sure P11 is going to be even better. Therefore, please, please, please give me an option to upgrade from Respin to P11, without me having to install it all from scratch. Please, please, please……
It is not an exaggeration to say “balazing fast OS” really. We happily use it on 3 comupters (2 laptop and 1 desktop) at home. I hope some day linux preinstalled desktop computers increases and Peppermint OS also takes the place it deserved among the best distros ever list.
Peppermint team please, please ….. be brave and simply confirm, that you are not going to release versionn 11
It is ok, the leader is not with us, so the team is sleeping,, or even they do not want too working on it
Please team, say to everybody to not waiting for anything more, and leave the Peppermint, and i am sure, that some new people will continue the work, and the new ideas will give new image to our nice Peppermint distro :-)
Now i would like too be the first to say : Good Bye old Peppermint team , bye bye bye
And let new people start new better way with this great distro …………….. bye folks, your retirement time is now !!!!
It is ok, do noot be shame team, the same did teamm of CentOS ….. it is sad, but new people are already working and uploading CentOS next generation.
I’m gonna have to agree with zibi. Peppermint is gone and it’s not coming back. Linux Mint already got the key feature from peppermint, the ice app. I’m sure you guys are trying really hard, but it seems like it’s all done here folks. Maybe if y’all can’t figure it out, hand everything over to the mint team and they can at the minimum make a peppermint theme for their xfce release as a tribute to Mark. It would be more fitting than to let his legacy dissolve into nothing. As soon as I thought that peppermint is over and done, I switched to Manjaro on my main pc and am very happy. If you guys ever do get a release done, I’ll give it a shot. On my bank computer I switched to mint as soon as the ice app was baked in. I really, truly hope that the peppermint team can pull it together and can get me to switch back, but I’m not holding my breath. And please, don’t take this all negative. I understand that this is a free os and a passion project for the team, who work on it in their spare time probably, but sometimes projects are too much to carry on. I wish you all the best, and I really do hope that I am proven wrong.
Also wondering about pep 11, and no pressure or forcing the developers or team, but the lack of output on social media or in the news is odd. One thing I like about linux lite or solus is they have a kind of timeline as to how far along things are, or what needs to be done, and a blog with updates. like for example on linux lite website they updated about the rc is available and give a definite date for the next stable release. I am not asking or expecting the pepp team to do that, but a bit more news as things progress would be nice, no worries.
I had an old Laptop to recycle/make usable for a basic user, and I tried to install several flavors of Puppy Linux… and failed every time, because it would not implant itself properly in the Boot sector of the disk, so every time, Boot failed.
To succeed, I would have to know how to use the proper GRUB commands, Even though I was trained in Linux 20 years ago (in the Age of RedHat), I did not want to dive back into my instructions manuals… I did not want to go there… because no time to waste.
Been spoiled by the Windows paradigm for too long.
So I tried that oddball new distro: Peppermint 10… and it installed fully, properly at once, no tweeking, no fussing… Just had to select what packages/apps/browsers to install, and… VOILÀ !
So IMPRESSED! A Beauty! … And my novice end-user with zero knowledge of a computer and mouse (only used a smart phone before), was a ble to adapt within 1 hour !!
Hi,
I use linux mint xfce for many years now, and I tried Peppermint yesterday. I am really really impressed.
You managed to use less ram and even less cpu than Linux mint xfce.
Linux mint is an incredible distro but you managed to add few options really helpful as the size of the pointer, Debian software and many other little things…
So I am going to install Peppermint 10.
Congratulations, I really hope you can keep going and I can’t wait to see Peppermint 11.
About Snap, I understand the concern of Linux Mint but you are right to leave the choice. But I think it will be good to explain the situation to the users before they use snap like a pop pup to explain before using. Like that, they can choose. and I really like you can add app from Debian as well. Another choice and liberty.
A lot of liberty in fact…
I was wondering if you install a programme like chromium by snap, does it use more space on the disk? It looks like the installation is bigger by snap than by apt or debian…
Thank you again for your work.
Steven
Thanks for your support. Glad to hear you’re enjoying Peppermint.
My guess is that a snap and or flatpack will include a few libraries that a traditional deb package would expect is already installed on the system but that’s more of a question for debate in our forums :)
Hi Joseph I really enjoyed previous versions of Peppermint OS. I really love to run lighter operating systems for my main desktop that features an i7 processor. I really like the fact that Peppermint OS gives the user a flashy but still down to earth operating system. I always enjoy using less resources and saving them for when they are truly needed which Peppermint allows. I forgot though how the EOL (end of life) works. Do you follow Ubuntu LTS dates 5 years or Lubuntu 3 Years?
All upstream updates from the Ubuntu project will continue so from a security perspective you can keep using Peppermint 10 until 18.04 reaches end of life. However, the Peppermint software packages may not receive updates as we tend to only support the latest version after it becomes available.
A software that allows Appimage to be integrated into the system [integration in the menu – launchers – dock and define predefined applications software] is
https://github.com/TheAssassin/AppImageLauncher
Could be an interesting alternative for Peppermint OS 11
Best regards
Greetings!
I started using GNU/Linux on December 2019 and my first distro was Pop!_OS, I moved to another linux disrto after that one just to experiment and then i heard of peppermint 10 and decided to try it….it was bloody amazing and I literally had zero bugs! To get more experience I left pepper mint to try Fedora 32…big mistake. Fedora was really unstable on my pc and it didn’t work out…I then tried other distributions and i can to a conclusion…It was that peppermint OS was the distribution that i enjoyed most…it was the most stable and most welcoming.
I made a huge mistake leaving peppermint and i have learnt my lesson…this is by far the best distro i’ve tried. Peppermint 10 was great and I cant wait to try peppermint 11 when it comes out.
I am coming back and wishing my best wishes to the team.
nakedllama
Glad to have you back!
If you just could replace the Whisker Menu with the Mate Menu (as it is in Ubuntu Mate Edition). This would be a huge improvement. The Whisker Menu is too flat and primitive, not a bit better than the Windows XP Start Menu.
I love windows xp and the whisker menu. I vote not to change
Possibly a Live USB Maker similar to the MX Live USB Maker for both dd and writable USBs with persistence, possibly remaster. This is asking a bit much though, hence possibly.
Clipgrab? Conky-all by default to show how fast Pmint is.
Perhaps an obvious firejail and firetools installed by default for some of the ICE sites, and others.
My wish list for 11 is short – 1 item. Several releases back – maybe Peppermint 5 – a user had the ability to show or hide the contents of the desktop leaving only desktop wallpaper and the panel. I think it is a standard feature in lubuntu. The feature was dropped but PCNetSpec created a workaround that worked up until 9. If this feature could be reintroduced it would be great.
Hi geeman,
head over to our forums. I’m sure there’s a way to do this my simply unchecking the icons in a desktop appearance dialog.
Can we just jump to PeppermintOS 12 based on Ubuntu 20.04? :)
Lets turn it up to 11 first :P
Thanks for the reply – hiding application icons can be easily done, but not the icons for files in the Desktop folder.I’m pretty sure that what I want to see isn’t available at present. Let me try to be clearer. If I place a number of files in the Desktop folder, an icon for each file will show on the desktop. I would like to be able to toggle their view on or off so that when I’m not working, my screen can show only whatever background I have chosen. As I mentioned in my original post, this could be done “out of the box” up through Peppermint 6 I think. I asked about the feature when it went away and PCNetSpec crafted a script that worked. But with the release of 9, the script no longer worked. So, if there is a way to make it work again, I would sure like to see it return.
It is good as it is!
Any chance I can upgrade to Peppermint 11 from 10 Respin?
I can’t say for certain but in the past Peppermint upgrades have required a fresh install where you can then restore from a backup.
I like using PeppermintOS alot, however I tend to float between openSUSE and Ubuntu(s) and all the various different types of desktops. What puts me off XFCE in general is how difficult it is to grab window corners to resize them. I know you can use special key commands, but I’m also a Windows user of many decades and do everything with a mouse ;-) So easyer grabbing windows corners like you can do on Plasma and GNOME Shell would get my vote :-)
As an aside, I know that PeppermintOS is based on XFCE and LXDE. Has the Peppermint Team ever considered swapping to Lxqt? I have made my own desktop based on Kwin and Lxqt and that worked very well.
I’m realy looking forward to using PeppermintOS 11. Thanks for all your hard work in developing such a great distro.
I agree…grabbing windows is a pain!
A Big Pain that makes Peppermint very difficult to use.
Hello, everyone .
I use Peppermint OS from the 5th. version and this OS attracted me so much, ease of use, memorable Desktop presentation with and very good tools. Many thanks to everyone in this project.
And since we all live in the time of the Internet, I would like to offer something for Peppermint OS 11. program built into Peppermint OS 11 to LOCK YOUR APPS
Thanks.
mhh, its already that good!! ;-)but what i do miss is a function that could handle automatic installation of software/apps after doing a clean install, say when we go from peppermint 10 to 11.
i have understand that upgrading a existing version from say 10 to 11 is not so easy.
but a tool that would handle automatic installation of software/apps after a fresh install would be working so much faster.
As a new user what I really would enjoy in Peppermint 11 during the installation process, is the choice to replace the existing Peppermint, next to windows, for the latest version. So far you only can install it next to Windows, to format the whole disk or ‘another possibikity’ which I find to complicate to implement. I came across this simple choice possibility in an other Linux OS. It certainly would be of a great help for all new users of great Peppermint OS.
Dear Peppermint-team,
I switched completely to Linux about 6 years ago, I think. I never looked backed – came from Windows – despite the fact that I have a lot of paid software that ran on my Windows system. As a lot of other people in the world today, I use a computer almost all the time each day during working hours. So when I am at home, I personally do not have the need to fire up a computer and have it running all the time. I do use a computer at home of course, but then I need it to be quick to start up and shut down, simple, easy and quick to use, but also nice to look at and work with. The OS should keep my laptop cool and running smooth for a long time on battery without the need to plug into the wall. Peppermint 10 checks all these boxes and I really like it a lot. I usually either power it up for a small task and then shut it down, or leave it running by itself to complete some job that I set it up to. It really works great.
I want to thank you all on the Peppermint team for doing such a great job!!!
Peppermint 11 really should remain small, fast and un-bloated but also, of course, keep up with time and renew itself. I do not know, what you should choose to include in Peppermint 11. It is a hard balance, since I like it as it is, but at the same time I really look forward to some kind of renewal or “rebirth”.
I like ICE, but have had some problems with it not really working that well because eg. a pupop window steals the session so that I cannot get back to the main window (my webmail is annoying, since when I open a message it steals the session, and I cannot get back to my inbox), maybe it is possible, and I just missed a shortcut key or a setting? But it does not seem to work 100% for me when hiding the firefox controls.
Something that I really liked, starting in Ubuntu when they used the Unity desktop, was the HUD. How many times have I been looking through menus to find a command? No problem, I just typed my command and the HUD found it for me. So great! I would really like to se a HUD in Peppermint 11.
I have had a problem with switchable graphics in Peppermint 10, is it implemented to switch on/off switchable graphics for older PC’s in Peppermint 10 ? Otherwise I would like Peppermint 11 to handle graphics cards better, also regarding external monitors (and especially multiple external monitors).
This was my two cents’ worth, and I wish you all – users as well as developers – a great summer and I look forward to Peppermint 11. Take care and keep up the good work!
Best regards,
Daniel, Denmark
Hi Daniel,
Go to the PeppermintOS forum and use its Search function to see if some of your question concerning ICE already has been answered (I am almost positive that it has been solved). There is a huge collection of solutions in our forum!
My view, keep it really simple, base it on 20.04. Don’t do anything too clever, keep low memory usage, etc., a winning formula!
Hi BrianLinuxing,
It looks like you have been spying on the Peppermint 11 development team ;-) I think you will be pleased with the next release!
VERY HAPPY WITH PEPOS, RUNNING FAST ON MY LAPTOP FROM 2009. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
Love Peppermint (the herb and the OS ;-). I started by using Peppermint 8 on an Asus Eee 1015PEM 10.1-Inch Netbook (which came with Win-7 Starter), which was my first big purchase as an Amazon Prime member in Oct. 2010. I’ve replaced the screen and battery on this device. It is wire connected to my stereo, as a dedicated music player for a huge personal library of music, which I’m listening to, even as I type this reply on my (master unit) NUC-PC running LMDE4. My daily laptop is a newer Asus VivoBook running L-Mint 20-C (got nothing proprietary anymore). When I (update) installed P-10, I selected minimal install (browser & basic utilities) and nothing more, so that I can use just the music (media) player, and the FF browser on rare occasion: And I know many others select this OS for its minimalist theme. Peppermint can surely be used like one would use any full-fledged laptop (or even a desktop) OS, but I’m guessing it is used on limited use single-boards or older devices like mine, since most of us have newer equipment and thus larger OS’s. Consequently, I’d recommend (as others have) to keep it minimalist, and w/a 32-bit version. The only problems with some Linux Distros is that they try to become more like Mac or Windows (or any popular L-Distro), and slowly but surely get too large. Many thanks go out to all who are working this Distro, and to the BosTechMo crew.
Suggestion for 11: On L-Mint-C, if the Panel gets messed up, say, by a child playing with it unsupervised :-(… you can right-click the Panel, click Troubleshoot, and then click Restore All Settings To Default. In Peppermint (I’m on 10), there is no way to reset it, at least not that I can find, and I’ve G-searched for it to no avail. Right now on my Panel, everything (everything) is shifted to the left, and when trying to Ad New Items & then Separator, nothing happens. Bummer!
Fair warning to ICE users; do not select “Use Site Favicon” because if there’s not one, it locks up and you must force quit; it does this on P-10 & Mint-20. And even after you have created one, it saves the shortcut in “All Applications” because it has no designation folder option, which it needs, badly. Lastly, if you make the comments section herein, editable, then one would not have to tag on over and again.
I thought I posted this previously but didn’t seem to show up, so here it again.
Dream Peppermint OS would offer/support:
Nemo lags for me & I don’t know if it’s hardware related or due to the version used in PM 10. I don’t remember having any problems with it in earlier versions of PM. I have reached out via the forums for a solution but it was never resolved. I think it may just be the version used in PM 10. The problem persisted even after I recently went from 8 to 32GB DDR3 in my PC. Updating nemo can break things so I’ll wait to see if future PM fixes this.
Wacom Tablet Drivers and setting panel GUI for artists who use other distros where this is built-in
ICE Browsers appearing more like their live counterparts (ie. Firefox ICE does not have an address bar, doesn’t display add-ons so it is not exactly 1:1 the sameas a standard Firefox install).
Built in System Restore app that is simple to use & reliable/stable
Ability to make a rescue cd/.iso to easily restore boot like macrium reflect allows one to make a rescue cd/.iso.
GPU wizard to help better specify necessary/optimal graphics drivers to ensure or minimize v-sync related issues (i.e. Netbook / Laptops w/older Intel graphics seem to be most difficult / impossible to remove screen tearing). A GPU pop-up wizard for adding Vulkan flag to gpu’s w/o having to resort to difficult to understand kernel flags.
Finally, help in regards to updating apps to latest version if possible…There are less devs supporting PPA’s and .debs. Snaps & flatpaks sometimes have appearance problems that don’t blend w/the appearance of the distro (off colors; weird edges/bezels). A warning about installing Snaps/Flatpaks would be helpful such as if they are closed source or not so user can better understand.
I look forward to someday seeing these dream features implemented. Thank you to the great Peppermint Team.
I realize this isn’t a support question but I do want to remind anyone who may read this that if you do need support to visit our community forum at https://forum.peppermintos.com/
When would Peppermint version 11 be released?
We’re in development now and will release it when it’s ready.
I figure (and hope) that you are waiting until 20.04.1 is all done so you can bake it in… : )
Ha! I suspect 20.04.1 will be out before we have it ready. This is our first release after Mark passed away earlier this year so we’re still learning our own workflow. However, I think it will be worth the wait.
Will P11 be compatible with WINE, I have never got it to work in either 32 or 64 bit P10… [32 bit on old acer ZG5 netbook, 64 bit on usb3 drive ]
That’s a great question to ask in the forums. I believe it should be possible in and presume it would work in 11.
Keep low usage of cpu and ram
I love everything about PeppermintOS 10 on my old acer laptop. Fastest and Rock Solid stability performance. I’ve tried various OS distros as an experiment, each of them has their own problems (example logout screen frozen in black, hardwares like camera got crashed), and I had to solve it out in order to get the things working. However for Peppermint, everything just works and doesnt requires any troubleshooting and it is buttery smooth. Yes, the only minor issues about it is the missing icons that I do encounter. I hope the new version 11 will have more visual improvements and polished design elements.
What worries me most is the 10-11 step. if you decide for a new installation a backup program in the installation functions would be useful
A couple of points following on from comments others have made:
1. I think Linux Mint’s approach to Snaps gives the user the most choice. While anything is Linux can be adjusted, it is easier for users who want Snaps to turn it on than it is for users who don’t want it to turn it off and purge them from the system. I will be eager to see how Peppermint 11 manages this dichotomy.
2. A Welcome Screen would be a great addition. I particularly like how MX Linux does this and centralises all tools to one convenient screen.
3. Similarly other inspirations from MX Linux could include a persistent USB creation tool and an ISO creation tool. There are some very good version of both that could be incorporated into the distro. It would be nice to be able to configure and re-spin Peppermint, turn it into an ISO as a back up or on a USB to have Peppermint in my pocket.
4. The Desktop Environment question is an interesting one. How do you make it a little more modern, while keeping it lightweight? Again, I’ll be interested to see what you come up with.
Hi, Peppermint runs really great on my old quad core machine but there are some issues i would like to tell you. First, resolution on lockscreen changes to 800×600 from 1080p and second is gaming on peppermint is not as great as linux mint or manjaro, there’s 30 percent decrease in fps on Peppermint. Otherwise everything is great.
I have a very low spec computer and I got tired of Windows hanging every single minute in it. So, I tried Peppermint 10 and I have never been more impressed by anything. I seamlessly used a Pentium dual core cpu with 1 Gb memory with it. I am waiting for Peppermint 11. And a big thank you to all those involved in this os. :)
Hi
I am a fan of Peppermint since PP8. Since 2008 I am using Ubuntu and derivates on my old pc(s) and I have abandoned Windows.
Now the main problem for the Peppermint development is due to Ubuntu that is transforming in the “windows for the Linux world”: it is too bloated, and resources hungry.
According to my experience PP 10 is fantastic on pc min year 2008 and min 2G ram. With those machines I can do my job, surf the internet, etc
For older pc I prefer Q4OS or Antix, both are Debian based, a bit or a lot more complicated, BUT they work in an acceptable way on pc from 2003, with min 1 G ram.
To summarize, PP10 is my preferite OS and I have installed it on a lot of pc (and also 2 Mac!) and it is by far the best syntesis between system solidity and easy of use, installation and support.
Many thx to the developpers
I’d like to see improved Wine support. I’ve had issues installing Wine in 64 bit installation. Thank you.
apparently, many older Thinkpad models don’t wake anymore from sleep mode under Peppermint 10 (I too have that issue). Would be great if this could be fixed – otherwise Peppermint is THE ideal OS particularly for such those low-spec laptops!
Definitely head over to the Community forums for support if you’re still experiencing this issue. Thanks for being a fan.
We are looking forward to the next release from Japan.
I hope Peppermint OS 11 would continue to support 32 bit machines.
A lot of OSes (both Windows and Linuxes) have dropped 32bit support.
The issue is not about upgrading to a 64bit machine.
I do have 64 bit machines running latest OSes.
The question is what to do with the 32bit machines if they are still working?
Should they be just throw away? It would be such a waste.
Old 32bit machines do need an updated OS.
Therefore I hope Peppermint OS will continue to support 32bit machines.
I agree with you. I have a 32 bit machine still running very well.
I would like to see support for Raspberry Pi 4, Lepotato, Nano Pi, and Odroid.
A very fine distro. Would like Peppermint 11 to add 4 keyboard shortcuts to tile the current app window to the left half of the screen, or the right, or the top half or bottom half. Linux Mint has this feature and allows he user to edit the shortcut key-combinations. I use Alt-LeftArrow, Alt-RightArrow, Alt-UpArrow, and Alt-DownArrow keys respectively. This is much faster and more reliable than dragging an app window to the screen margin. Sometimes it places the tiled app in the upper right corner instead of the right half screen. Ability to edit keyboard shortcuts would be welcomed.
Head up display like Ubuntu Mate! :-)
Would like to see an app that turns my foldable laptop in a magic carpet ride!
Didn’t mean to pull the rug out from under you.
When will Peppermint OS 11 come. I am waiting for long a time.
We’re still working on it. We don’t have a release date set.
take your time and do it right…as always
Frank G
Is the Peppermint team looking at an exclusive desktop environment (using LXqt or XFCE would be my guesses) or continuing to run with the best-of-the-best features one? I don’t mind either, just somewhat curious.
Hi Chris,
We’re planning to continue to use XFCE but in the classic Peppermint tradition it will also incorporate elements from other projects to add features while keeping the system lightweight.
Awesome! I have always liked how Peppermint has incorporated the best in breed concept. Looking forward to that upgrade!
Will peppermint use snap or apt. please be apt.
New features for Peppermint OS 11
1. Uninstall packages by ‘Right Click’ option on main menu ( Like Linux Mint ) but ‘improve it’ … Right click the package(s) and select ‘mark for removal’ … Packages will remain ‘marked’ for ‘5’ minutes. If they are not removed within this time frame then they will revert to being ‘un-marked’ … After you have marked all packages you wish to remove then …From the MAIN MENU, select ‘Remove Marked Packages from System’ … The user will be asked to input the ROOT ( SUDO User ) password to complete the package(s) removal(s).
2. At install, Can we have a ‘change the menu’ option ? Give us the choices of the ‘Default’ Whisker Menu / the Mate Menu and the Cinnamon Menu… But keep all the ‘Panel’ and Right Click Un-Install options above.
My 4 words are “Donot use snap”. Snap will give the title “heavyweight” to peppermint.
Very much looking forward to version 11. I use peppermint on a range of very old, low resource hardware, and need a lightweight but capable browser. Arora was grewat, but I see is no longer maintained. Dillo is fast, but can’t render pages well – any chance of a capable but lightweight browser in version 11?
Unfortunately, the problem isn’t so much with browsers but the websites themselves. Midori browser is an option but I haven’t tried it in awhile.
I’m running wattOS 10 on a 15yo Acer Aspire One Z5G (1.5GiB RAM, overclocked to 1.6GHz) and have Firefox running with 15 (PeppermintOS) tabs open: no lag, no freeze, no problem. With certain sites only one open tab will lag.
As Joseph says, the problem is with the websites.
I’ve tried Dillo and Midori, but they lack function and features (e.g. add-ons) and security, and seem to be very much out of date. I would not trust them for online transactions. I’d rather have ocassional lag, knowing that I’m secure online.
Top tip: always disconnect and run Bleachbit after an online transaction.
What would I like to see in PeppermintOS 11?
I’d like to see a minimal version, with all the fundamentals, without all of the non-essentials (a la wattOS, CrunchBang#!, or MadBox) that can be added later.
My reason: I always have to spend hours removing unwanted software (usually multimedia, graphics, ‘productivity’) after a fresh install before updating and upgrading.
When will the version 11 be available? is peppermint os good for gaming by using steam ?
Hi Giuseppe, We’re currently working on Peppermint 11 and don’t have a release date yet. Yes Peppermint OS works well with Steam.
Fix screen tearing for gaming! :-)
I just by chance came about Peppermint OS, and fell in love in a day by its speed… There is huge difference… I was using Linux Mint… But hats off to the Peppermint Team.
I like to see Flawless connectivity with Apple Devices in next Peppermint Upgrade.
Automatically Install Printers. In all Linux distros, my printer was installed automatically, in Peppermint Linux somehow it was not installed.
It detected my HP Laser but was not installed, I had to do it manually.
Hi Muhammad, head over to community forum for support.
Hi, will peppermint be compatible with 32-bit computers?
Hi Kevin,
Peppermint OS 10 supports 32-bit. We’re still working on Peppermint 11 so I can’t speak as to whether or not it will support 32-bit,
I am using ubuntu-tweak old out of support but very effective makes pulling off residual packages easy have had no problems at all so far. it would be nice if somebody were to build a version for next realease. other than that odio music streamer software does not install correct on new installs i really enjoy odio a great deal best music streaming software out there. i will miss these two programs a great deal but peppermint is in my opinion the very best open source linux operating system around thank you for your great work looking forward to next release can i get pre-release to try it out?
When is the end-of-life for Peppermint 10 Respin?
Barring any difficulties we expect to support it until 2023 when Ubuntu sunsets 18.04.
Pprmt 11 Based on 20.04 LTS only xfce (newest), no more screen tearing issue on intel hd graphics. Nice wallpapers in 1080p/1440p no blurry or lot photoshop, just natural.
A better image management for flatpak applications.. A better interaction with kde Connect, so you don’t have to install Dolphin to get into the “browse device” and be able to see previews of images ..
Please add the functionality to use more than 4 keyboard layouts. Now it has maximum 4 keyboard layouts. But I need to use many more than that. And there are many users out there with the same problem. Please fix this issue as soon as possible.
Tiling window manager would be very helpfull
Please make it installable to hard-drive, without:
‘grub-efi-amd64-signed’ package failed to install, and
‘installer crashed’.
I have tried twice, once from straight direct install, once from live environment.
I appreciate that this not specific to Peppermint OS, but it’s something that is a recurring problem to which no attention is being paid.
Apart from this, Peppermint OS looks great, and is a great live distro.
I have just replaced Ubuntu 18.04 with Peppermint 10 on a brand new Dell Ubuntu laptop (eventually), to find that it now has twice the battery life, a much faster boot, much faster operational reponse, and a 3 second shutdown, a well as a much more user-friendly interface (much better than my custom attempts).
So why doesn’t Peppermint go into partnership with an OEM, to produce bespoke Peppermint computers?
Would it be possible to be able to change wallpapers?
In fact (after an updating) would it be possible to actually have a wallpaper/desktop background, rather than a grey screen?
Problem solved (I know this is more of a forum point, but I don’t do fora):
I removed ‘samba’ (which does not configure) & ‘adobe-flashplugin-installer’ (which gets stuck at 17%, forever). Both of these are old issues, that can potentially break an installation, but apparently the Canonical/Ubuntu developers cannot be bothered to fix them. So, maybe move to a pure Debian base?
Now, Nitrogen works, and I have changeable wallpapers.
Cancel previous comment. Once again, there is no wallpaper.
Would it be possible to be able to have a nicely wallpapered desktop interface without icons?
Under standard desktop settings, choosing to have ‘no icons’ on the desktop means having no wallpaper (grey screen of depression).
I worked around this by moving the contents of ‘desktop’ to other foders, renaming the ‘desktop’ folder (to e.g. ‘Z’), and defining it in /home/.config/user-dir.dirs.
I now have a nice clean desktop, but it would be nicer if I didn’t have to hack a solution.
Personally what I’d like to see is an update to Peppermint 11 right on top of Peppermint 10. I really hate updating from on distro to another because of redoing everything, including saving files and downloads etc.
I love your distro. When will 11 be released? Also, have you ever considered Debian (Testing) rather than Ubuntu base?
Me too. An option to perform direct upgrades to 11 from 10, please.
Please oh please… do not add bloatware to Peppermint OS 11 … I was Windows tech support and now my daily driver is peppermint os 10! I often use the keyboard shortcuts in Peppermint OS 10 so please keep them in 11. The only required improvement in Peppermint 11 is the touchpad sensitivity on laptops. I enjoy the speed and ease of use. Remember, less clutter is better. Thanks for your excellent work!
I don’t think that’s likely to happen.
In my experience, opting for a ‘minimal install’ makes no difference.
PeppermintOS is very much ‘JEOS’ (just enough operating system for what it needs to be).
Even if it will be necessary to perform a fresh install for PeppermintOS 11, make sure you make a backup copy of your ‘.config’ folder from PeppermintOS 10 (press ‘ctrl+h’ to show hidden files/folders) which should enable you to keep your prefered shortcuts.
And just to make sure, make a backup copy of the ‘.config’ folder in your fresh install, before you overwrite with your ‘old .config’ folder.
It would be great if it had KDE Connect implemented.
i vote for Hypnotix
I really enjoyed this OS and their efficiency. Thank you all. I would like that you include adapta theme as an option pre-intalled for a modern look. Also it would be great that you include automatic icons for web apps on ice.
When will the version 11 be available? is peppermint os good for gaming ?
We’re working on 11. We don’t have a release date yet. I’ve enjoyed using Peppermint 10 with Steam.
I’m (mostly) enjoying using Peppermint 10.
Both from the cli and the GUI – Thank You.
For Peppermint 11 , my only request is ….
For syslinux-legacy to be upgraded from 3.63 to 4.05/4.06, whichever was the default syslinux offered in ubuntu 14.04 LTS.
At least for syslinux-legacy or an installed version to be the same version used to create the iso .
Thank You, Again
How about using PCManFM as the default file manager? This is very much a matter of personal preference, from years of using an OpenBox/LXDE base, with my own keyboard shortcuts. A stronger LXDE base makes it easy to copy and paste configs from one install to the next, even between different LXDE based distros.
Another aspect of preference is that PCManFM actually tells you what it’s doing, e.g. when transfering files, and doesn’t close the dialogue until the transfer is complete; and then it shows the transfered files in their destination folder.
In comparison, Nemo displays an icon of the file immediately, before it has even started the transfer. This is misleading, and can easily lead to data loss, especially for newcomers who may not be familiar with either data transfer speeds or the *nix ‘snapshot’ method of non-fragmented data transfer, and e.g. hastily remove their USB stick before anything has actually happened.
I know this, from when I began my migration from WinXP to Ubuntu 8.04!
Meantime, I’m working on integrating PCManFM to the PeppermintOS ecosystem, although I have already borked one install. LOL ;-)
How about a simple way to split screen, I have a large monitor and would appreciate an easy way to use both halves of it.
Wow
How about to release the Peppermint 11 beta version I think is ready???
Hi Rakiboy, we’re still working on the Alpha and will update our community when we’re closer to a release of Peppermint 11.
Hello to the team and the community. Very often I am adapting the distributions a little bit to make them more to the taste of beginners.
What I personally would like is to have a tool to make an installable iso of the system I modified, like the one in MX. It’s also a way to spread the good news.
I use bodhibuilder for this and it works out of the box and even reduces boot time, as reported by systemd-analyse. It fully supports Secure Boot UEFI.
I’m using P10 Respin—-it is great and I’m sure P11 is going to be even better. Therefore, please, please, please give me an option to upgrade from Respin to P11, without me having to install it all from scratch. Please, please, please……
It is not an exaggeration to say “balazing fast OS” really. We happily use it on 3 comupters (2 laptop and 1 desktop) at home. I hope some day linux preinstalled desktop computers increases and Peppermint OS also takes the place it deserved among the best distros ever list.
Peppermint team please, please ….. be brave and simply confirm, that you are not going to release versionn 11
It is ok, the leader is not with us, so the team is sleeping,, or even they do not want too working on it
Please team, say to everybody to not waiting for anything more, and leave the Peppermint, and i am sure, that some new people will continue the work, and the new ideas will give new image to our nice Peppermint distro :-)
Now i would like too be the first to say : Good Bye old Peppermint team , bye bye bye
And let new people start new better way with this great distro …………….. bye folks, your retirement time is now !!!!
It is ok, do noot be shame team, the same did teamm of CentOS ….. it is sad, but new people are already working and uploading CentOS next generation.
We’re currently Alpha testing 11.
Thanks for everything Joseph and Peppermint team. I can wait until April 2023. :-)
Good morning Joseph,
Any news yet on the release of Peppermint 11 ???
I’m gonna have to agree with zibi. Peppermint is gone and it’s not coming back. Linux Mint already got the key feature from peppermint, the ice app. I’m sure you guys are trying really hard, but it seems like it’s all done here folks. Maybe if y’all can’t figure it out, hand everything over to the mint team and they can at the minimum make a peppermint theme for their xfce release as a tribute to Mark. It would be more fitting than to let his legacy dissolve into nothing. As soon as I thought that peppermint is over and done, I switched to Manjaro on my main pc and am very happy. If you guys ever do get a release done, I’ll give it a shot. On my bank computer I switched to mint as soon as the ice app was baked in. I really, truly hope that the peppermint team can pull it together and can get me to switch back, but I’m not holding my breath. And please, don’t take this all negative. I understand that this is a free os and a passion project for the team, who work on it in their spare time probably, but sometimes projects are too much to carry on. I wish you all the best, and I really do hope that I am proven wrong.
Bet I get a new graphics card before 11 comes out
Also wondering about pep 11, and no pressure or forcing the developers or team, but the lack of output on social media or in the news is odd. One thing I like about linux lite or solus is they have a kind of timeline as to how far along things are, or what needs to be done, and a blog with updates. like for example on linux lite website they updated about the rc is available and give a definite date for the next stable release. I am not asking or expecting the pepp team to do that, but a bit more news as things progress would be nice, no worries.
Cheers,
Jon
I have Peppermint OS 10 installed on my laptop, can i upgrade from 10 to 11 or clean installation?
You will need to do a clean install, as it no longer based on Ubuntu
I had an old Laptop to recycle/make usable for a basic user, and I tried to install several flavors of Puppy Linux… and failed every time, because it would not implant itself properly in the Boot sector of the disk, so every time, Boot failed.
To succeed, I would have to know how to use the proper GRUB commands, Even though I was trained in Linux 20 years ago (in the Age of RedHat), I did not want to dive back into my instructions manuals… I did not want to go there… because no time to waste.
Been spoiled by the Windows paradigm for too long.
So I tried that oddball new distro: Peppermint 10… and it installed fully, properly at once, no tweeking, no fussing… Just had to select what packages/apps/browsers to install, and… VOILÀ !
So IMPRESSED! A Beauty! … And my novice end-user with zero knowledge of a computer and mouse (only used a smart phone before), was a ble to adapt within 1 hour !!
JC Lequy thank you! so much for your kind words, We are happy to hear things have been working for you !